The Third Secret of Fatima

The Fuentes Interview

17 The Fuentes Interview

   Skinner continued to think about the job that Cap had tackled. In late July, he wrote to her.

Cap,  

   If there is one fatima document which stands above the others, it is the Fuentes Interview.  This is one that caused so much trouble for Sister Lucy. It is one of the most valuable and informative of the fatima documents.

   Here below is most of what is know about the interview. Fr Augustine Fuentes was the postulator for the cause of the beatification of Francisco and Jacinta. In that capacity, he interviewed Sister Lucy in 1957. Upon his return to Mexico, he gave a conference to group of nuns. His remarks were later published. They stirred up a hornets nest. There were elements about which Sister Lucy spoke strongly which were in neither the first or the second second secret. It could be deduced that she was speaking about the third secret. 

Sad, Pale, Emaciated

   “I wish to tell you about the last conversation I had with Sister Lucy on December 26 of last year. I met her in her convent. She was very sad, very pale and emaciated. She said to me:

   “Father, the Most Holy Virgin is very sad because no one has paid any attention to Her message, neither the good nor the bad. The good continue on their way but without giving any importance to Her message. The bad, not seeing the punishment of God actually falling upon them, continue their life of sin without even caring about the message. But believe me, Father, God will chastise the world and this will be in a terrible manner. The punishment from Heaven is imminent.”

A Terrible Chastisement

   “Father, how much time is there before 1960 arrives? It will be very sad for everyone, not one person will rejoice at all if beforehand the world does not pray and do penance. I am not able to give any other details because it is still a secret.  According to the will of the Most Holy Virgin, only the Holy Father and the Bishop of Fatima are permitted to know the secret, but they have chosen not to know it so that they would not be influenced.

   “This is the third part of the Message of Our Lady which will remain secret until 1960.

Russia to be the Scourge of God

   “Tell them, Father, that many times the Most Holy Virgin told my cousins Francisco and Jacinta, as well as myself, that many nations will disappear from the face of the earth. She said that Russia will be the instrument of chastisement chosen by heaven to punish the whole world if beforehand we do not obtain the conversion of that poor nation.

Decisive Battle between Mary and Satan

   “Father, the devil is in the mood for engaging in a decisive battle against the Blessed Virgin. And the devil knows what it is that most offends God, and which in a short space of time will gain for him the greatest number of souls. Thus, the devil does everything to overcome souls consecrated to God because in this way, the devil will succeed in leaving the souls of the faithful abandoned by their leaders, thereby the more easily will he seize them.

Drag to Hell

  “Religious and priests who fall away from their beautiful vocation drag numerous souls to hell.

Always Sad

   “In all the apparitions, we always saw Her sad. We never say Her smile. This sadness is caused by the offences against God and the punishment that menaces sinners.

Material Punishments Imminent

   “Father, this is why my mission is not to indicate to the world the material punishments which are certain to come if the world does not pray and do penance beforehand. My mission is to indicate to everyone the imminent danger we are in of losing our souls for all eternity.

We are on our own

   “Father, we should not wait ... for a call to come from Rome to do penance. Nor should we wait for the call to penance to come from our bishops in our diocese nor from the religious. It is necessary for each one of us to begin to reform himself spiritually. Each person must not only save his own soul but also all the souls that God has placed on our path. 

The Last Times

   “Father, the Most Holy Virgin did not tell me that we are in the last times of the world but She made me understand this for three reasons.

    

The Final Battle. 

   “The first reason is because She told me that the devil is in  the mood for engaging in a decisive battle against the Virgin. And a decisive battle is the final battle where one side will be victorious and the other side will suffer defeat. Hence, from now on, we must choose sides. Either we are for God or we are for the devil. There is no other possibility.

The Last Remedies. 

  “The second reason is that She said to my cousins as well as to myself that God is giving two last remedies to the world. These are the Holy Rosary and Devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. These are the last two remedies which signify that there will be no others. 

Sin Against the Holy Spirit. 

   “The third reason is because in the plans of Divine Providence, God always, before he is about to chastise the world, exhausts all other remedies. Now, when he see that the world pays no attention whatsoever, then, we say in our imperfect manner of speaking, He offers us with a certain trepidation 

The Last Means of Salvation, His Holy Mother. 

   “It is with a certain trepidation because if you despise and repulse this ultimate means, we will not have any more forgiveness from Heaven because we will have committed a sin which the Gospel calls the sin against the Holy Spirit. This sin consists of rejecting with full knowledge and consent, the salvation which he offers. Let us remember that Jesus Christ is a very good son and that He does not permit that we offend and despise His Most Holy Mother.

   “Sister Lucy told me: the two means to save the world are prayer and sacrifice.

   

Special Efficacy of the Rosary

   “Regarding the Holy Rosary, Sister Lucy said: Look, Father, the Most Holy Virgin, in these last times in which we live has given a new efficacy to the recitation of the Rosary to such an extent that there is no problem, no matter how difficult it is, whether temporal or above all, spiritual, in the personal life of each one of us, of our families, of the families of the world, ... that cannot be resolved by the Rosary. There is no problem I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary. With the Holy Rosary, we will save ourselves. We will sanctify ourselves. We will console Our Lord and obtain the salvation of many souls." End of the interview.

 Best wishes,

Skinner

Next Chapter

Website Builder